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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 19 Apr 93       Volume 11 : Issue 83

Today's Topics:

      (C) Quran in Arabic with English translation
      * Malaysian Mouse Problem News *
      .AU to SND -- Programs that do it (Q)
      32 Bit System Zone?
      32k colors on LCIII (A) from Carl Sagan fan
      4th Dimension v3.0 COPY PROTECTED!
      [RES] Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines
      A comment about Info-Mac (R)
      After Conflict Checker DEMO
      After Conflict Checker DEMO, ... (C)
      Any Net Lists for Aldus Freehand?
      Any sentence diagramming software (Q)
      ATM 2.0.3 with System 7
      AUX-3 and Usenet
      Backsplash/Gates: No Mas!
      bizarre talk behavior on internet (Q)
      Can I hook a Sun SCSI tape up to a Mac Classic? [Q]
      Canvas 3.x vs Aldus IntelliDraw (Q)
      Check your facts, please ! (Centris and Quadra video)
      Cracked Screens PB170 (C)
      Cursor in CG III (C)
      desktop pattern
      Disk error copying a file
      download formats (inc .image)
      Educational Consortium or Info on Mac's?
      Educational Software for disabled children [Q]
      Educational Software for Medical studies [Q]
      Ethernet Questions
      Excel 4 menus missing (arrgh!%*&@)
      Frequently Asked Questions?
      Hard Drive Hero and Villian, again
      HELP - E_Mail Address of Caere Corporation?
      Help with Norton Backup needed (Q)
      Help With Partioning and Locking Volumes
      How to xfer 150 megs over 350 miles (Q)
      Icons for harddrives in 7.1 free how (Q)
      IIci memory & FPU's
      IIci memory capacity - the final word (hopefully)
      IIci vs LCIII (R)
      IIsi power LED flickering?
      indelible ink cartridges for StyleWriter?
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #69
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #82 (3 msgs)
      It's a daft old Word
      Japanese Worldscript (A)
      LaserWriter IIf/g Upgrade
      LaserWriter Select 300 Memory
      LC III and System Software
      LC III drives speeds
      Leased LIne AppleTalk connections ??
      Liken emulator!
      Looking for David Oster/Mosaic Codes (author of Cal DA)
      Mac Attack (fwd)
      Mac Hardware Guide Proposal (long!)
      Mac Vitual Reality Software
      MacX 1.1.7 and System 7.1 (A)
      Mail order to foreign lands - a personal experience
      Motorola UDS V.32  TO MAC INFO NEEDED
      Mousemats
      Multimedia Training lab (Q)
      My Pb100 RAM disk will not stay
      Norton Utilities 2.0 (Q)
      Outbound vs. Powerbook???
      Problems after Conflict Catcher -- the final chapter?
      Protect Bit on Mac Files and Netware 2.2
      Q800 with 16 MB SIMMs
      QT Movie editor
      Quadra Speed
      Resource Detective Needed (A)
      RES  Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines
      sil-ipa.hqx [A]
      Speaking of MacInTax.... (C)
      Still/QT Image capture for PowerBook 165c
      Strange startup error.
      Studio/32 Crashes under System 7... Help!
      Subject: Looking for Pascal-2-C source converter (R)
      suggestion for answering *easy* questions
      Sun OS's default font (Q)
      SuperLaserSpool
      System 7.0.1
      System 7.1 Sylewriter II.
      thanks
      TOPS network: how to add a PowerBook?
      TransferNote
      TurboGopher: (TY)
      Weird OzTeX behavior (C)
      Where to get 6.08L ? You don't need it for the PB-100 ! (2 msgs)

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 19:24:02 BST
From: M J Sawar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (C) Quran in Arabic with English translation

I received the following message from another Digest reader, and really
found the comments useful to clarify some issues.

These comments are related to my submission of Quran (Arabic combined with
English translations by two translators).

M. J. Sawar
CBLU
Leeds University


>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93  11:47 BST
>From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject:  Arabization of the Mac
>
>I just downloaded your Qur'an and translations.  I have a few doubts about
>your attached readme file though.  You say that one can use Arabic 7.0.1
>resources with System 7.1, but of course 7.1 is the first WorldScript
>release and therefore you are supposed to use Arabic WorldScript with it
>(which as far as I know is not yet available).  Can you confirm that you
>can use Arabic 7.0.1 resources with 7.1?

You answered your question yourself. Arabic script for 7.1 is not out as yet.
So I just tried the Arabic resources (of 7.01) on System 7.1 and they worked,
though you have to be in the application to actually switch to Arabic.


>Secondly, I note that you submitted the Qur'an as a Microsoft Word document.
>This is puzzling - Word 5.0 and prior versions certainly do NOT support
>Arabic and indeed Word has been one of the worst programs ever when it comes
>to foreign script support, so I'm surprised you chose this format - it means
>people can't use it unless they have Word 5.1, and even there I have my
doubts
>as to whether it will support Arabic.  I'll experiment later today if I have
>time.

Not really! I have opened the same document in Mac Write, Word 5.0 and other
wordprocessors and they open it with out any problems. In fact the first test
which I ran was using a very old version of MacWrite (5, I think) and that
also handled the Arabic text properly in System 7.0 and 7.1.

Why I chose Word? Well thats simple, since thats the only wordprocessor which
I own, plus it handles large files very easily...


>If you or somebody else could prepare a
>Hypercard version of the Qur'an there would be a very strong case for leaving
>it at Sumex, as a stack would be a much more fancy thing with custom search
>and retrieval facilities (one hopes).

I am working on something similar.

>PS: It's a GREAT pity that your version didn't have the Arabic and English
>side-by-side; you should ask the people who did it to consider modifying the
>whole thing.

Well I am working on something similar and hopefully it should be out in the
next couple of months (If I have ample time on hand!).

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 17:43:05 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Liam Breck)
Subject: * Malaysian Mouse Problem News *

Here's news about Apple mice made in Malaysia whose buttons seem to
stick intermittantly.  Articles appeared in MacWEEK (15 March) and
TidBITS (22 March) about this issue.

I have heard a rumor that -- although THEY DON'T WANT TO -- Apple is
considering creating a program to replace these mice.  I believe that
if they hear from a bunch more people, they will relent and agree to
replace them.

So, if you have not already, PLEASE CALL APPLE as soon as possible!

The numbers are...

United States 1-800-776-2333
Canada 1-800-263-3394
UK and Europe 33-1-49-01-49-01
Australia 61-2-452-8000
Japan and Pacific 81-3-5411-8500

Call collect if the number is not toll free.

By the way, I have heard some reports that the new ergonomic mice
(those that are made in Malaysia) may also have this trouble.

Liam Breck     [e-mail]          El Cazador de Ratones

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 17:25:17 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Brad Ackerman)
Subject: .AU to SND -- Programs that do it (Q)

Can someone tell me what program I need to convert Sun soundfiles (.au)
to Mac format?

Brad Ackerman              #include <std.disclamier>
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 10:21:47 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ken Linger)
Subject: 32 Bit System Zone?

A week or so ago, I posted about a problem with my SE/30:  I have 20 megs
or true RAM, yet if I set my extensions to use a large amount of memory
(total of all extensions) then my system will crash before the finder
comes up.  What I meant was having a large amount of fonts load, or
sounds, or huge disk caches with a control panel other than Apple's
memory control panel.  Apple's cache is at 64K, mode 32 is on, and
so is 32 bit addressing.  All extensions work by themselves or with the
others until I increase the memory used by some of them (with methods
mentioned above).

Well, here's my latest followup...  I ran NOWs System Profile and got
this information:

%%% Memory info %%%

Physical RAM size: 20480K.
Logical RAM size: 20480K.
Size of Low Memory Area: 8K.
Virtual Memory: Inactive.
Addressing mode: 32bit mode in use.
32 bit System zone: Absent.
Parity RAM: Not capable.
Growable System Heap: True.
Temporary memory support: Present.
Tempory Memory Support: Real and tracked.

Note that 32 bit System zone is absent.  Could this be the problem?
How can I turn this on?  Any ideas?

Can anyone help?

Ken

---
    Ken Linger                              [e-mail]
    School of Computer Science              [e-mail]
    Purdue University                       AOL:  Ken Linger

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 15:12:30 -0500
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 32k colors on LCIII (A) from Carl Sagan fan

   Michael Silverstein writes:
>How many colors can the human eye see anyhow (I know, billions and
>billions) with discerning resolution??
   I saw a strata vision lecture and they used much more colors than your
garden variety, only artists know for sure!
   Further, I was able to personally observe steppiness in that control panel,
color, on my machine while I didn't see the steps on the strata demo machine.
This steppiness was part of what discouraged me in rendering 3 color
dimensions
to get a total of 6 in my alternate universe navigator.
   So there, that is what is the difference, inquiring minds want to know and
to see!

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 14:25:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 4th Dimension v3.0 COPY PROTECTED!

Am I the only person surprised, and VERY disappointed, to find that version
3.0.2 of 4th Dimension is copy protected?  Here's a scenario:

  You install 4D on your startup drive (the installer requires a system folder
      on the target drive, though the installation guide omits this)

  When you first launch the application, the ORIGINAL disk 1 is required
  (again
      no mention in the installation guide)

  2 weeks later, while on travel, you defragment your startup drive.

  Surprise!!  You need the ORIGINAL disk again to run 4D  (and, of course, no
      mention in the installation guide)


It seems that disk 1 has an invisible file (4D PROT=) which writes an
invisible
file (xb) to the target drive.  This file must log the physical location of
the
application file, because if the application file is moved (copied, then
copied
back), the ORIGINAL disk is required to launch.  I find no documentation of
thisanywhere!  This is on top of the network polling at launch which checks
for
another copy with the same serial number on the network.  This is
unacceptable.
I don't dare to optimize my hard disk, for fear that the ORIGINAL program disk
may not last forever.  Is anybody else concerned about this??

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 12:04:46 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Ted Yun)
Subject: [RES] Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines

>>For my money, The Apple LC/LCIII upgrade seems to be the best buy.  For
>>$599, my local Apple dealer will take my hard drive out of my LC and put
>>it into a brand-new LCIII.  I get virtually a whole new machine.
>
>This is different from my understanding... If I were to do this to my LC
>all I would upgrade is the  board, I would still have the same floppy drive/
>video capabilities (ie no support of the 16" monitor)....  ANy insight into
>this would be appreciated.

The logic board upgrade is as Michael Everson described, where the hard
drive and floppy drive of the LC and LC II are transferred into the case of
an LC III - the term "logic board upgrade" is a bit misleading in this
context.  This upgrade gives you all the benefits of the LC III.

Ted

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 20:00 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: A comment about Info-Mac (R)

Some subscribers to the network are feeling left out because their requests
for information are not answered.  Some Info-Mac'ers have put in more than
their fair share of time answering requests.  Many of us learn from their
responses to other's request.  I believe the problem is not that Info-Mac
has grown to much or that those of us who subscribe are all a bunch of
greedy self-serving republicans.  No, the problem is that there are no
guidelines that will spare those who have high levels of expertise and have
answered many questions in the past from feeling that this basic question is
another imposition on their time and that will guide those who have less
expertise than the experts but more than those asking help feeling they SHOULD
answer the questions they can.
    Allow me to toss out some suggested guidelines for discussion and debate.
   1.  Expert netters such as Alen Bloom and Wade Williams, just to name two
of many, should not bother to answer routine questions.
   2.  The introduction to the net should ask novices to down load the FAQ
files to try out the down loading instructions.
   3.  Netters who see a question they have recently, say in the last three
months, learned the answer to should consider themselves responsible for
answering the question.
   4.  Netters should refrain from publicly criticizing the spelling or
   writing abilities
of people who venture to express themselves on the net.  A private message
explaining subject-verb agreement or split infinitives would help them without
embarrassment.  Embarrassing criticism keeps many from participating.
   5.  Exchew obfuscation.
     jim gundlach - Auburn University


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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 11:53:12 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Brian Gordon)
Subject: After Conflict Checker DEMO

The continuing saga: After using the Conflict Checker DEMO for a couple of
days, several DAs flaked out (BinHqx, KiwiEnvelopes!, ...)  Removing Conflict
Checker doesn't bring them back.  This is on a Mac II running 7.1.

This weekend, I replaced the suitcases with the broken DAs from a backup, then
replaced the whole DA folder that Suitcase uses, then Suitcase itself, then
System.  Nothing changed :-(  Any other ideas out there?  Sound like H/W?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 15:35:48 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Michel Eytan, LILoL)
Subject: After Conflict Checker DEMO, ... (C)

>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 16:24:37 PDT
>From: [e-mail] (Brian Gordon)
>Subject: After Conflict Checker DEMO, ...
>
>I downloaded the Conflict Checker DEMO (Mac II, 7.1) and rebooted.  It did
>some
>diddling with load order, robooted again, and seemed happy -- no complaints,
>etc.  Then some DAs stopped working -- BinHqx brings up its menu bar and
quits
>immediately (no message), KiwiEnvelope crashes with an illegal instruction
>error as soon as you bring it up, etc.  Since the Conflict Checker was the
>only
>recent change, I dumped it and started over -- with the same problems.
>
>Neither DiskFirstAid nor Norton Utilities have any complaints about either
>disk.
>
>Anyone else seen something similar?  Both of the know affected DAs are
brought
>in by Suitcase, so I will look for damage in that direction over the weekend,
>but if anyone else has an idea, I'd be more than happy to hear it.

Me too, Man! Got a bomb saying "Ressource inexistante" (on F-6.0.7) and
then it was a bucket of s... I would like to strongly protest to the author
-- this seems more of an April Fool's joke than anything serious.

-- [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 12:19:54 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Any Net Lists for Aldus Freehand?

Arte there any net lists for freehand users?  If not, how about a DTP list
which deals with postscript layout?

Thanks,
Ben

[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 16:07:23 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Igor Mikolic-Torreira)
Subject: Any sentence diagramming software (Q)

I am looking for any software that would take English text and for each
sentence pull out the subject, verb, object, and the adjectives/adverbs
modifying each.  We'd love to have the output in a tab-delimited file,
one line per sentence, the columns containing subject, verb, object,....

Anybody know of such software, commercial/shareware/whatever?  Respond to
me directly please.  I will summarize to the net.

Igor Mikolic-Torreira
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 14:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ATM 2.0.3 with System 7

I recall that there was a patch or a little application that would fix
System 7 so that ATM 2.0.3 would find the Fonts folder. Would someone
please tell me where to find the patch or give me the application name so
I can retrieve it? I ARCHIEd "atm" and "adobe" and came up with lots of
font stuff, but no fixer.

Barry Bandstra, Department of Religion, Hope College, Holland, MI
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 22:17:35 CDT
From: Robert Blystone <[e-mail]>
Subject: AUX-3 and Usenet

We are running AUX-3 on a IIci.  We have tried to configure it to run
UseNet.  We can almost get it to do it, usually it falls apart with
the remote feature running.  Does anyone out there operate a successful
UseNet feed with AUX-3.  I have had no help from Apple after numerous
attempts.  I have found several who they have it going, but they won't let
peak at their configuration.  At least we have learned a lot about
 UNIX trying to get it running.  Maybe we should just break down and
buy a Spark.  Blystone in Texas  and Dan on Weird

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 09:58:17 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Backsplash/Gates: No Mas!

Folks, I fear I must cut off the offers to share the ZMAC files "Gates
Does Windows" and "Backsplash" with y'all. It has been a couple weeks,
and I really need the disk space for the day job.

Please, no more requests. Thanks for your understanding.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 13:17:56 EDT
From: [e-mail] (2d Lt Avram Dorfman)
Subject: bizarre talk behavior on internet (Q)

If there are any internet wizs out there, I would really appreciate an
explaination for this problem:

When I talk from jade.tufts.edu in Mass, to my friend at physics.ucsb.edu in
California, we often talk for a long time with out any trouble (20 minutes or
so).

After a while (it seems inevitable), the connection breaks without either of
us asking it to (talk doesn't even say "connection closed" - I just get my
prompt back). When I try to talk him again, it says "waiting for invitation
on caller's machine", which it never gets.

I have seen this message before, and it doesn't seem to mean what it says -
whenever I have seen this message, it has stayed there "forever", and talk
has never informed the target of the talk request. I know that this doesn't
mean that the target has talk turned off, because it happens to people who
can talk to other places. It seems to simply be an indication of uncompatible
talk programs.

Anyway, this case is different, because I go from a successful talk to an
unsolicited break, followed by the "waiting for invitation..." message. If
I wait for a while (10-15 minutes), the problem usually clears up, and I can
talk with him again.

Any ideas? I realize this isn't really a mac question, so if someone can point
me in the right direction to find an answer, I would appreciate that too.

-Avram Dorfman ([e-mail])

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 11:50:54 BST
From: [e-mail] (Charlie Stross)
Subject: Can I hook a Sun SCSI tape up to a Mac Classic? [Q]

Hi there.

I've just had the offer of a second-hand tape streamer, and I'd like to know
how
much trouble it would be to attach it to a Mac. The creature's a Sun external
tape drive containing an Archive 2150 SCSI tape [QIC format]. It's currently
wired up for SCSI-2, but the guy selling it says he can put a standard Mac
D-type
connector on it.

I'm running a Mac Classic 4/40 with System 7.0.1 /tune-up 1.1.1.

What I need to know is:

a) do I need to install any device drivers before I can use the tape, or
should
the Mac recognize it as soon as I bolt it on???

b) If it needs device drivers of some kind, where do I find them [and if I
have
to pay for them, how much would they cost?]

c) can I use Sun-tar to make tar backups compatible with a UNIX box?? If not,
what do I need to know?

Apologies if these are FAQ's in some circles ... I'm new to bolting
peripherals
onto my Mac and I especially want some kind of high-capacity backup device.
[I'm
also cash-impaired, hence the s/h tape approach rather than flopticals. Please
don't suggest expensive alternatives!]

Thanks ...

--
[e-mail] // [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 09:04:00 -0600
From: "Earl Misanchuk"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Canvas 3.x vs Aldus IntelliDraw (Q)

Can anyone provide a feature by feature comparison (even a superficial one) on
the two above-named? I'm reasonably familiar with the former from using it at
the office, but am intrigued enough with the advertising I've seen to consider
the latter for use at home. (I long ago learned that advertising is not
necessarily a good criterion by which to judge the value of software,
however.)
Ideally, I'd like something approaching CAD since I expect to do some
(relatively simple) drawings of woodworking projects at home.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 09:31:14 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble)
Subject: Check your facts, please ! (Centris and Quadra video)

Tony Huang wrote:
> Q700 may not be as expensive as it used to be, but it's no cheapie. The
>Q700 is probably a great bargain if you can still find one. It's built for
>speed and funtionality without much cost consideration (unlike the C650
>which is designed to be a middle-of-line machine with a cheap case --
>cheap-looking, too -- and without 24-bit color capability -- unless you
>spend >$1000 for an accelerated 24-bit video board).

Thats right.  But the Quadra 800 also has the same video 'limitation'.
Both do only 16 bit video, but thats still a lot of colors !  Anyone but a
graphic artist probably wouldn't see the difference.  Having used a
Centris-650 next to my Quadra-700, the C-650 seems a little snappier.
The fast 230 Meg disk is especially nice.  I could live with the case.

Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE ([e-mail]) Fax (France=33).76.48.39.06

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 11:38:03 -0400
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cracked Screens PB170 (C)

     Cracked Screens PB170 (C)
Dave Hirsh said:

(...stuff deleted...)
>> to an Appple shop where the technician examined it and, with no visible
>> signs of external damage, determined the crack was caused by 'misuse'. The
>> repair bill was nearly $1400. And AppleCare DIDN'T cover it.

Jeffrey N. Fritz adds:

> Happened to me on a PowerBook 170 that was less than three months old.   I
> took it on a trip.  When I returned I found the screen cracked.  The case
>was *not* damaged in any way.  Apple, ever the user champion, told me,
>"Sorry about that.  $1,400 will fix it right up."  I paid them in full,
>but I was less than happy.  ;-(


Guess who the latest victim is....... :-(

My PB170 developed a crack in it, and I was told that the warranty wouldn't
cover it (I bought it last July).  Our central MIS group Cornell Information
Technologies (CIT) *IS* an Apple authorized repair facility, and they happened
to have one spare 170 active matrix screen, and quoted me a price of $1015
plus
labor to replace it.  I called 800-SOS-APPL and THEY quoted me a price of
$1895
for the repair.  So I sent it to CIT to have it fixed.

Then CIT says that they can't get a replacement from Apple and that Apple
wants
to fix it.  Cost:  $1731!!!  I've got a bunch of questions/comments:

   1) How come some of these other people paid $1400, I was quoted a price
      of $1895, and CHARGED a price of $1731?  It seems as if Apple picks
      arbitrary prices out of the air to suit their particular mood, IMHO!

   2) I, too, wish if that Apple were to be so accusatory of people abusing
      and misusing their machines, that they **DEFINE** circumstances that
      constitute *INTENTIONAL* misuse.  It seems that in their infinite
      wisdom they REFUSE to accept responsibility for something that could
      be a manufacturing problem.  Those people that manage computer systems
      and are in areas that support Macintosh (or any computer systems),
      many of which are the readership of Info-Mac, realize that the laptop
      and notebooks computers are not "sacks of potatoes" (shades of Dan
      Quayle!!! ;-) and take precautions with the handling of their
      computers.  I know I've been careful, but Apple just doesn't want
      to "fess up" on this one.

   3) I also feel that the warranties/AppleCare agreements should count
      for *SOMETHING*.  I can understand that if the machines were out of
      warranty or not covered by AppleCare, where they could be justified
      charging these exhorbitant prices, but those people whose machines
      ARE still under warranty, or, even more importantly, those people
      that pay the "insurance premiums" known as AppleCare should *NOT*
      be required to foot the entire bill, especially in the absence of
      an established Apple policy of what constitutes "computer misuse".

Sorry for the flames, but I've been a Mac advocate for many years, and been
involved with purchasing Mac computers for my college.  I'm responsible for
close to $500,000 worth of Macintosh computers, printers, peripherals, and
networking hardware/software.  I feel that Apple is "getting too big for its
britches," and is ignoring the end user in search of expanding their profit
margin.  The people that have related their experiences here on Info-Mac and
in the "Letters" section of the recent MacWorld magazine are understandably
upset, as I am as well.

What we need to do is to get an "electronic petition" going.  What do you
think?  The ultimate goal is to make Apple accountable and at least
investigate
each case individually and fully instead of saying "You don't
know how your screen got cracked?  It must be computer abuse!"  :-(

P.S.  I have also had problems since I got it back, in the form of an
irreparably corrupted Chooser, and then a day later an irreparably corrupted
System File and a couple of data files that were irretrievable.  Thank
goodness
for backups!!!  I made a backup the day before it was sent in, and I was able
to retrieve the data files and fonts/sounds that I had customized my System
with.  I ended up doing a fresh re-install of the entire System (oh well, I
was
going to upgrade to System 7.1 on my PowerBook eventually anyway).

     I have called the 800-SOS-APPL line and explained all my problems and
asked THEM some of these questions.  I wasn't particularly satisified with
their answers, but they DID give me 6 months of free AppleCare for the
problems
I was having.  Well, I guess I'll have to give them a little credit for
trying!
 :-S

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: 16 Apr 1993 12:27:46GMT
From: "Dr Alun J. Carr" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cursor in CG III (C)

I've just used ResEdit to look at the copy of Cricket Graph III on our
central server, and the 666 cursor resource described by Dave Martin in IM
11/81 is there all right. It is a rendering of the face from the painting
(drawing?) by Edvard Munch which is called something like `The Scream' or
`The Cry' (note to art experts: please don't flame me, I'm just an ignorant
engineer with grease under my fingernails, a hangover, and a lab full of
toys that can only be described aesthetically as `Industrial Ugly').

British (and some Irish) readers of this digest may be more familiar with
the rendering of this work by Steve Bell in `The Guardian', using Norman
`The Chingford Skinhead' Tebbit's face (perhaps someone could find this
somewhere to digitize for a startup screen?).

Alun

Dr A. J. Carr, Mech. Eng. Dept., UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland.
Internet: [e-mail] OR [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 05:55:07 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Tony Minenna)
Subject: desktop pattern

I hope I am doing this correctly, oh well here goes.
Is it possible to place a scanned image on the desktop instead of the boring
ktop patterns. Is there a public domain utility or do you name it something
special as in StartupScreen
I'd appreciate a reply. by Tony M


--

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 22:34:38 CDT
From: "Stephen Kawalko  " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Disk error copying a file

While copying a large number of files from an old hard drive to
a new hard drive the following dialog box appeared.

    +--------------------------------------+
    |  The file "filename" couldn't be     |
    |  read and was skipped (disk error).  |
    |                                      |
    |                    Cancel  Continue  |
    +--------------------------------------+

I selected the Continue button and let the Finder complete the
copy operation.

Moving the problem file to another folder on the same (old) disk
does not cause the above dialog box to appear. If the file is
copied using the Duplicate command the duplicate file can be
copied to another disk without any problems.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what is causing this disk error?

Stephen Kawalko <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 00:42:59 PDT
From: Les Ferch <[e-mail]>
Subject: download formats (inc .image)

In comp.sys.mac.digest 2d Lt Avram Dorfman writes:

>To Graham Berry, and anyone else who is new around here...

>I believe that there is a file explaining all about download formats, in
>info-mac/help.

>.image files are produced by DiskCopy, which is available at ftp.apple.com,
>in /public/utils/diskcopy-4-2.hqx. You'll need a machine with at least
>900k of free ram if you are making 800k images, and 1500 free ram for 1400k
>images.

>Other formats are .sit (stuffit), .cpt (compact pro), .pit (packit), and .sea
>(self extracting archive). The newest version of Stuffit can deal with all
>of these types, as well as do binhex/debinhex. I think the newest version of
>Stuffit is "Stuffit Lite". Older versions of Stuffit can not work with files
>created by newer versions of stuffit.

It is important to point new users to the *free* programs for handling
different archive formats. The main one that all users doing downloading
should have is, Stuffit Expander 3.01. It handles BinHex, Stuffit (all
versions), Compact Pro, and AppleLink packages.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 8:20:17 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Educational Consortium or Info on Mac's?

I once thought I saw a newsletter on this board about educational software
and advancements on the Mac.  If anyone has any info on who to contact
regarding this or where to go to find out more information, could you please
E-Mail me at:

    [e-mail]

Thanks,

Ben

------------------------------

Date: Sat,  17 Apr 93 17:31 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Educational Software for disabled children [Q]

Hello

I am looking for ShareWare sources of Educational Software / games for
children with motoric problems.  For MAC, Amiga, or (last resort) PeeCee.

Any Information appreciated.

Please E-mail to:

[e-mail]   (bitnet)

If there is enough interest I will summarize.

Thanks
Ilan

------------------------------

Date: Sat,  17 Apr 93 17:29 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Educational Software for Medical studies [Q]

Hello

We are looking for (any) sources of Educational Software in the fields
of MEDICINE / DENTISTRY. We have MAC LC's and a CDROM drive.

Here at the Dental School, students develop HyperCard stacks for teaching
topics in Dentistry.

Any Information appreciated.

Please E-mail to:

[e-mail]   (bitnet)

If there is enough interest I will summarize.

Thanks
Ilan

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 17:43:32 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ethernet Questions

The tax refund came in. I'm thinking of spending part of it to upgrade
our home netlet (two Macs, a LaserWriter IIf, and a Tek Phaser PXi color
printer) from localtalk to ethernet. May I impose on you network gurus
to (1) check my existing thinking and (2) answer a question or two?

I'm thinking a 10baseT system. I'm happy with the Asante cards we have
at the office. Looking at MacWarehouse, I can get the Nubus cards for
some $160 each and a minihub for $249. Am I OK so far?

One of my concerns is wire length. The RJ45 wires that came with our
Asante cards at the office are a tad short for running between my Mac
and Leslye's in the next room. The usual mail order suspects don't even
mention cables. Inmac has cables. It looks like level three is the way to
go, but what is the difference between 2-pair and 4-pair cables? Is a
multi-strand cable better than solid? Doesn't mean boo to me.

Then we get to the printers. Both are localtalk devices. I could spend
like $150 for Sonic's LaserBridge software solution, but I suspect there
is a better solution for not too much more money. Dayna's EtherPrint 2.0
connects two localtalk printers to ethernet for a tad over $300. And does
not need a host Mac fired up. Sounds like just what I need. Am I right?

I prostrate myself before you in my ignorance and pray enlightenment.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 17:41:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Giles Bateman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Excel 4 menus missing (arrgh!%*&@)

I recently bought Excel 4 and am ready to use it, but the menus aren't
working. The menu names are present in the menu bar, but when I click on
them, no menu appears. The menu names invert as though they are selected
and the information bar at the bottom of the screen gives general
information about that menu, but still no menu. It's as though the menus
are disappearing behind the toolbar. The rest of the program works fine --
cell modification, cell selection, command-keys, etc.
I have removed every init from the System Folder. I have reinstalled the
System. I have reinstalled Excel from scratch. I have chucked the Excel
settings file from the System Folder. I have checked application memory
size. (I have not tried Hare Krishna;)
---SYSTEM INFORMATION: Mac Plus (don't laugh, it's paid for) 4/80, System
6.0.8 (have also tried with 6.0.7), regular Finder, nearly 3 megs of ram
unused by system, no internal modifications other than the memory, no
system errors for a long time.---

Has anyone encountered this? What am I overlooking?
(When I called Microsoft, a recording told me that maximum hold time would
only be 21 minutes, but that didn't match my maximum long-distance budget.
Bummer.)

Thank you for your time, ahead of time.
(I'll thank you later, too, if you can help me with this!)
Adios
Giles Bateman :)

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 22:20:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions?

This seems to be a circular reference.  Do people frequently ask where to find
answers to frequently asked questions?  I have been looking for a "FAQ" file
somewhere in the sumex-aim ftp.  Any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 17 Apr 1993 09:20:00 -0600 (CST)
From: "MRGATE::\"A1::MRPATTERS\""@UTMEM.UTMEM.EDU
Subject: Hard Drive Hero and Villian, again

From:   NAME: Dr. Mark Patters
    FUNC: Dentistry-Periodontology
    TEL: 6242                             <MRPATTERS AT A1 AT UTMEM>
To:     IN%"[e-mail]"@MRGATE






Author: Dr. Mark Patters
Date:   17-Apr-1993
Posted-date: 17-Apr-1993
Subject: Hard Drive Hero and Villain


Seems that my mailer failed to send the last 2 paragraphs of my last post, so
here it is again. The post is complete if the last line is my internet
address.

In August, 1991, I purchased a Quantum ProDrive 210S external from Hard Drives
International in Tempe, Arizona. HDI was a major advertiser in MacWeek and
MacUser back then, and their Powerdrive series was priced right. I chose the
Quantum over a Maxtor because the Quantum was advertised with a two year
warranty while the Maxtor was only 1 year.

A few weeks ago, I began having some trouble with the drive when SpeedDisk 2.0
(part of NUM) refused to optimize it even though NUM's Disk Doctor said the
drive was OK. To be safe, I back it up and reformatted it. To my amazement,
Disk Manager Mac 2.30 (included by HDI with the drive) refused to format the
drive because of too many bad blocks. I tried DiskMaker 1.6 and got the same
response, i.e. 81 unrecoverable bad blocks. Trusty receipt in hand, I called
HDI technical support and they said that it sounded like a head crash had
wiped
out a piece of the drive. The warranty, "1 year" they said unless I had
purchased the extended care contract (I hadn't). I told them that the drive
was
advertised by them as having a 2 year warranty. They said that was Quantum's
warranty, not theirs, so I called Quantum.

Quantum's 800 number proved almost impenetrable, but I finally got through.

------------------------------

Date: 17 Apr 93 17:54:21 GMT
From: Zia Manji <[e-mail]>
Subject: HELP - E_Mail Address of Caere Corporation?

================================================================================
    I'm looking for the E_Mail Address of the Caere Corporation.
    Their Address is as follows:

    CAERE CORPORATION
    100 COOPER COURT
    LOS GATOS
    CALIFORNIA 95030

    If you know the E_Mail or have access to find it, please let me
    have it.

    My E_Mail Address is:

        <[e-mail]>

    Thanking you in advance,

        Zia.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 09:32:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Thoo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help with Norton Backup needed (Q)

I've recently run into a recurring problem with Norton Backup, namely,
trying to launch it results in the message

  The application program "Norton Backup" could not be opened,
  because an error of type -605 occurred.

Reinstalling Norton Backup cures this for about a week, upon which the
same problem arises.

This has been most inconvenient, to say the least, as I rely on Norton
Backup to perform a daily unattended backup.  Please, please, any help
on this would be most appreciated.  Thanks.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: MON, 19 APR 1993 11:54 EXP
From: K.S. Kim <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help With Partioning and Locking Volumes

Hello people out there...
I am running a small Macintosh Lab short handly
and I need some help with managing the hardware
I need to partion a 40mega Quantum drive into
two seperate volumes and then lock one of the
volumes so that it is only read only.
Please help me!!!!





                       K.S. Kim
                       [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 09:57:26 EDT
From: Clinton Collins <[e-mail]>
Subject: How to xfer 150 megs over 350 miles (Q)

Hello from Gainesville, FL, USA;

We have about 1500 megabytes of data that needs to be sent to a location
that is about 350 miles away from us. We would like to send it
electronically instead of delivering it in person.  This must be done
once per quarter (4 times per year).  What is the cheapest way? What
is the fastest way? What is the best way? Best in this case would be
defined as a very reliable way (ie little need to resend because of
an error) with a resonable compromise between speed and cost.
I ask for fastest and cheapest because I am interested in knowing the
extreme points.  I am assuming that the faster we are able to send it,
the more expensive the connection.  It is also likely this data set
could double to 3 gigs within two years.

send help to====> Clinton Collins <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 14:49:26 -0500
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Icons for harddrives in 7.1 free how (Q)

   System 7 allows you to copy icon from one infobox to another. I want to
copy from resedit but can't. What's the trick?

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 23:35:33 -0400
From: Scott E Maxwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: IIci memory & FPU's

Two small items:

1) To the best of my knowledge the IIci can sport upto 128Mb of
RAM in the form of 8 16Mb simms.  There is NO RAM soldered to the
system board.  System 7 can address upto 128Mb of physical RAM and
1 gig of virtual RAM (if running in 32-bit mode); therefore there
should be no problem with 128Mb in a IIci.  Now Apple used to (I
don't know if they still do or not) recommend against using anything
more that 4Mb simms, which would result in 32Mb on a IIci.

2) While most spreadsheets DO use a FPU if present, the spreadsheets
DO NOT use them for all functions.  If I remember correctly simple
functions (i.e. addition, and such) do not take advantage of a FPU
in spreadsheets.  I believe that such functions as LOG, LN, SIN, and
so on DO use the FPU if present.

Hope this helps.

Scott Maxwell
The University of Michigan
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 3:00:24 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Russ Arcuri)
Subject: IIci memory capacity - the final word (hopefully)

Hello all,

In a recent info-mac digest, Elliot Bennett writes:

>According to the Macintosh Compatibility Chart of October 1992 currently
>hanging on my wall (this came with a developer's package last year from
>Apple, so I assume it's authoritive), the Mac IIci can have a maximum
>RAM of 32 MBytes.

Actually, Apple's promotional materials (even those that ship with
developers packages) are often wrong.  The charts tend to fall on the
conservative side when describing "maximums and minimums."

The truth is, a IIci has 8 simm slots and no RAM on the motherboard.
Each slot can take up to a 16 MByte simm, which means that the IIci can
hold (and address) a maximum of 128 MBytes of RAM.  (Unless you include
virtual memory capability, where the maximum addressable RAM grows to 4
gigabytes.)

I have seen a IIci running 68 MBytes of RAM myself (four 16 Meg simms
and four 1 Meg simms) and it worked just fine.  Although I have never
seen a IIci running with 128 MBytes of RAM, I don't know any reason why
it wouldn't, based on the evidence.

Russ Arcuri
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 19:48:32 GMT
From: [e-mail] (justin m. collins)
Subject: IIci vs LCIII (R)

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>Wow!!  What a response!  I'm glad there are people out there
>keeping people like me in check.  Based on all the comments I
>received I did some more checking.  The IIci can accomodate 1,2,4,
>8, and 16 MB SIMMs for its 8 SIMM Slots.  With 4MB standard memory you
>should be able to get 132 MB of RAM, however the only documentation
>I can find (other than MACWORLD) states 32 MB max recongizable RAM.
>Since we all know documentation can be wrong (MACWORLD) we will leave
>it at 132 MB until someone out there can verify otherwise.

Again...

The IIci has 8 Simms Slots.  It does not have any memory on the mother
board.  The total max amount in the IIci is 128 meg using 8-16 Meg
simms.

peace,
-justin m. collins
<[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 17:25:16 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Steve Portigal)
Subject: IIsi power LED flickering?

 I've got a IIsi, bad enough that the sound keeps cutting out because of
how it was built. Now my green "on" LED (or light) flickers, or cuts out
for long periods of time, etc. ANyone else seen this? Any EASY fix? Any
reason to worry?

Steve
--
|  Steve Portigal, Dep't of CIS, University of Guelph, Guelph, ON, N1G 2W1   |
|  email: [e-mail]    Phone: [phone] ext 3580  |

------------------------------

Date: 18 Apr 93 02:42:38 GMT
From: [e-mail] (David R. Braddon-Mitchell)
Subject: indelible ink cartridges for StyleWriter?

[e-mail] writes:

>Sharon Zardetto Aker writes in THE MACINTOSH BIBLE:

>One minor problem [with the HP Deskwriter] is that the curren ink is
>water-soluble, and thus prone to smearing if the page gets wet.  But HP
>has announced that an indelible ink cartridge will be available soon.
>- 1991 edition -

>I do not have an HP Deskwriter, but rather an Apple StyleWriter (I, not
>II, not that that oughta make a difference), and was led to think that
>such problems did not, or never had, plagued the StyleWriter.  But it
>does.  Printouts are fine unless they get rained on, condensed upon,
>etc.  (I guess I can't write any tear-jerkers, huh?)

>The local computerware stores are clerked by sales staff whose range of
>knowledge does not overlap the area, as in, "Huh, whatddya wanna know,
>the price, or whether we got it in stock?"

>Anybody know if I have an alternative to 360 dpi watercolor printing?

>- Allan Hunter
> <ahunter@sbccvm>
> <[e-mail]>

Easily fixed.
Recharge your StyleWriter cartridge with a "jetfill" stylewrite recharge kit.
This gives you indeliable ink, and also costs about the same for a
two-recharge kit as one new Stylewriter kit. You may have to print out a few
pages of junk before the new ink flows smoothly (it needs to flush out
the old ink). But I have been very happy indeed with this product. There
mayof course be plenty of other brands out there as good.

The JetFill is made by the JetFill corp, and you can phone them in the US
on 1-800-695-4JET. I don;t have an outside US number. I got mine from a
cartridge recharging copany in Canberra, Australia (the paradisiacal town
where
I live) who actually paid a home call!!
--
David Braddon-Mitchell
Division of Philosophy and Law
Research School of Social Sciences
Australian National University

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 16:37:22 +1000
From: Danny Thomas <[e-mail]> (Danny Thomas)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #69

In article <[e-mail]>, you write:
> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 22:19:43 EST
> From: CXEO000 <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Skipping mouse
>
>     Hi, All!
>
>     I have a question for all hardhards out there: my standard-issue
> ADB Apple mouse is driving me up the wall and I would like advice on
> fixing it before I throw it out a window.
>
>     The problem is this: the mouse seems to randomly skip fairly
> considerable distances (a dozen or so pixels, perhaps) along the
> horizontal axis during any form of motion. The problem doesn't appear
> in the vertical axis (You can imagine what this is doing for word
> processing), leading me to believe that this is a problem with the
> horizontal roller.
>
>     Before I get inundated with patronizing answers, the rollers are
> clean enough to see one's face in, and opening the bottom and rolling
> the roller (as it were) by hand produces the same skipping phenomena.
>
>     I have unscrewed the case and peered unknowingly at the inner
> workings without being able to improve the situation any by pure brain
> wave energy. Are more direct means, short of trade-in at my friendly
> Apple dealer, available to me? I have no fear of poking at my rodent's
> internal organs -- anything to get this problem to go away. However, I
> am a poor starving student and steer clear of Apple whenever possible.
>
>     BTW, my USS. Enterprise (As in the carrier) keyboard works flawles-
> ly, so I doubt the ADB port itself is damaged.
>
>     Thanks in advance,
>
>     Mark Aiken
>     [e-mail]
Hello Mark,
       sorry for the delay in the reply, but I suspect you've got one
of the PC style mouse mechanisms. These use a potentiometer to sense the
rotation of the rollers, whereas most Apple mice use optomechanical sensing
with the rollers having a slotted disk at the end which rotates through (a
quadrature pair) of LED/phototransistor gaps. I'm not sure what happens to
the potentiometers to give the symptons you've noticed, but in the one
mouse we've had this happen to I tried thoroughly cleaning them without any
improvement. A similar thing happened to the owner of a Microsoft mouse
(which looked very similar on the inside, I think both MS and Apple mice
used Logitech ICs and PCBs) and since I didn't manage to find a source of
replacement pots could only advise tossing them. I think the pots are made
by ALPS, a large Japanese company - I had an unsuccessful look through an
ALPS catalog at the only company in town distributing their products
without finding anything similar. At least the new ergonomic (the previous
ones weren't?) is quite a bit cheaper - in Australia A$75 vs A$125.

sorry I can't offer anything positive,
Danny Thomas.

PS you could approach Logitech perhaps, but I suspect the design is flawed
and the replacement will likely fail in a year or so.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 09:32:47 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #82

At 10:59 PM 16-4-93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>From: E=MC^2 <[e-mail]>
>Subject: How to read files with cpt suffix
>
>Dear Netters,
>If I am using TurboGopher, how can I read files received with a .cpt suffix?
>Is there an additional application I can get out of sumex/aim that bin/hex's
>directly into a file that reads .cpt compacted files?
>Thank you.

This is a Compact Pro file. Stuffit Expander will unstuff it simply.
Colin McLaughlin
University of Western Sydney
Booloobidja Aboriginal Education Centre
61 2 772 9415 PHONE     [phone] FAX
[e-mail]

This is a M F Z
Do your bit to rid Macs of the Microsoft curse

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 09:44:10 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #82

At 10:59 PM 16-4-93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 22:50:12 -0500
>From: [e-mail] (Li-Hsiang Tu)
>Subject: Random StartupScreen (Q)
>
>Is there another extension or cdev that allows me to randomly (or in order)
>display pictures in a folder as StartupSreen?
>
>Thanks
>
>Tim

What you need is Screen Play 1.2 which is an extension available from sumex
I think . You just create a folder called screens (after copying the
extension into your extensions folder)put all your startupcreens in it and
away you go.
Colin McLaughlin
University of Western Sydney
Booloobidja Aboriginal Education Centre
61 2 772 9415 PHONE     [phone] FAX
[e-mail]

This is a M F Z
Do your bit to rid Macs of the Microsoft curse

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 09:44:10 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #82

At 10:59 PM 16-4-93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 22:50:12 -0500
>From: [e-mail] (Li-Hsiang Tu)
>Subject: Random StartupScreen (Q)
>
>Is there another extension or cdev that allows me to randomly (or in order)
>display pictures in a folder as StartupSreen?
>
>Thanks
>
>Tim

What you need is Screen Play 1.2 which is an extension available from sumex
I think . You just create a folder called screens (after copying the
extension into your extensions folder)put all your startupcreens in it and
away you go.
Colin McLaughlin
University of Western Sydney
Booloobidja Aboriginal Education Centre
61 2 772 9415 PHONE     [phone] FAX
[e-mail]

This is a M F Z
Do your bit to rid Macs of the Microsoft curse

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 16:19:48 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: It's a daft old Word

I have had a lot of experience UNreliably converting documents from MSWord
PC (windows) to the Mac and vice versa.  I have found MS Words translators to
be exptremely unpredictable and erroneous.  Depending on the document, I
have had some better success converting it to MacWriteII or MacDrawPro but
there are many formatting charactersitics of MSWord that wouldn't be retained
by doing so.

        Aric Friesen

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 17:26:33 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Fred Bremmer)
Subject: Japanese Worldscript (A)

In Info-Mac Digest V11 #81, glenn d. tiffert <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>        it has been reported that Apple introduced its Japanese scripts for
>US System 7.1 on April 13.  Does anyone have any more information about
them?
>I would especially like to know the system requirements for using them.
>How much RAM?  How much hard disk space do they take?  Thanks in advance!

I've been looking into this myself, and it looks like it's going to be
expensive.  The Japanese Language Kit lists for $249, and requires 4MB RAM
and 20 MB disk space (ouch!).  It consists of 12 floppies, containing the
WorldScript extension, the Kotoeri Japanese input extension, two TrueType
fonts, two PostScript fonts, a bitmapped screen font, and possibly more.  I
don't have a use for the PostScript fonts, so I may be able to save some
disk space, but I still have to buy a bigger hard drive just to install it.

System 7.1 is required, so I hope there is a bundle with 7.1 and the
Japanese module, but I haven't heard of one yet.  The Japanese Kit is
available from certain Apple dealers who are designated KanjiTalk
resellers.  My Apple representative was able to tell me the name and phone
number of the reseller in my state (Michigan).  I'm waiting for one of
their experts on Japanese to call me back.

I've only seen a couple of announcements of software that takes advantage
of the WorldScript technology.  One is Nisus 3.4L which works with several
languages including Japanese (or 3.4C which handles more languages).  Nisus
has a good reputation as a Japanese/English word processor.  Nisus 3.4L
lists for $395, but MacConnection (800/800-3333) sells it for $239.  Mac's
Place (800/367-4222) sells version 3.0.6 for $199, and Nisus (800/922-2993)
will ship 3.4L for $5 if you send them a (presumably recent) dated receipt
for the older version.  Nisus will also let you upgrade to 3.4 from any
version for $20.

Another application is WordPerfect, which has a version (2.1.3 for Mac)
which works with either WorldScript or KanjiTalk, but it doesn't have a
Japanese Language Module to handle things like hyphenation, etc.  They are
taking names of people who are interested in the Japanese Language Module
when it is ready, and will send you information when the module is
released.  Their number is 1-800-451-5151.  They are working on version 2.2
which will also support Japanese text.

Hope this helps,

Fred Bremmer                                      Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 18:39:59 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaserWriter IIf/g Upgrade

Many thanks to whoever it was who noted Apple's freebie LaserWriter IIf/g
upgrade a while back. May all your camels be healthy, and may all your
daughters be marriagable. Politically correct sentiment? Not quite. I've
got to work on that.

My original intent in tracking down that upgrade was returning the Zapf
Dingbats font to built-in status via the new ROM. There were some other
fixes in the replacement ROM. From the Apple blurb:

1. In general, the printer provides greater compatibility with non-Mac
   computer systems. <Maybe folk who lpr from Intel machines will see
   fewer PostScript errors>.
2. Many known problems with serial communications have been fixed. Speci-
   fically, the printer no longer echoes an extra eof indicator (Ctrl-D).
   <Sounds like they're sucking up to Intel types again>
3. Page centering has been improved. <Huh? Didn't notice that one>
4. When using either LocalTalk or EtherTalk, the printer's name is now
   saved correctly when the printer's power is turned off. <I didn't
   see that one either>
5. SCSI hard disk drives from third-party vendors are better supported.
   However, some products from other vendors are still incompatible --
   check with the vendor to be sure.
6. The printer can now be used more reliably by Macintosh print-spooling
   software.
7. Programs that use the PostScript "pathforall" operator to extract font
   outlines now work as expected.

Items 3-7 don't ring a dingle with me, but might mean something to y'all.

In addition to the new ROM, the update includes a disk. The LaserWriter
driver 7.1.2 is no different from what I got with the Sys/7.1 update. The
LaserWriter Utility 7.3 is different. From my perspective its best part
is an option to change the LW's zone. I had to swindle a PostScript file
>From user services to get our office IIg in the right zone.

If you have a LaserWriter IIf/g with the old ROM (It's easy to tell. Just
tell the sucker to print Zapf Dingbats and see if it tells you that the
font is being downloaded to the LaserWriter), beat up on your Friendly
Local Apple Dealer for the freebie upgrade.

Freebie does not mean easy. To get the replacement ROMs, my FLAD had to
first get the serial numbers of the LaserWriters. Sort of dumb, since
both had started out as IINT's back in the dark ages. The upgrade boards,
received in December and January, have no serial numbers of their own. So
who cares what the base serial numbers are?

That wasn't all. The best part of it was yet to come. To get reimbursed
>From Apple after the ROMs arrived, and thus to give the printers back to
me, the FLAD also needed the purchase dates. Of what? The IINT's or the
upgrades? The upgrades I guess, says the FLAD. Apple puked. My printer
boards sat upgraded and unavailable for a full day while my FLAD dickered
with Apple on purchase dates. Was that as goofy as it seemed to me? I'd
have thought that Apple would either get the old ROM chips back, or FLAD
had asked a stupid. And Apple and FLAD could hash that out without any
more inconvenience to me. I'm being silly, right?

Bottom line? Hang in there. The upgrade is worth it.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 10:48:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail] (Charlie Zimmerman)
Subject: LaserWriter Select 300 Memory

Now that the LaserWriter Select 300 and 310 haev been out for a while, here's
a memory upgrade question that no one around me has been able to answer:

Can the LaserWriter Selects make use of the 256K SIMMs that I will have left
over after I upgrade my SE/30 to 8 Meg from the original 1 Meg RAM?

Opinions or facts - I'll take anything!

Charlie Zimmerman
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 19:13:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick Lakin <[e-mail]>
Subject: LC III and System Software


    I brought home an LC III from school for the weekend to evaluate the
 new machine.  Here are some comments and problems that I had.  First, the
 LC III is a real speedburner.  It is slightly faster than my LC II which
 is equipped with a Tokamac 68ELC040 card (ie. no FPU).  The LC III is
 equipped with 4MB, VRAM expanded, and FPU.  I was able to hook up my
 existing VGA monitor with no problems.
    The problem that I encountered occurred when I attempted to modify
 a texture installed using Desktop Textures III.  The program caused the
 computer to crash and corrupted the System file preventing the LC to start
 up.  I attempted to startup using an existing system 7.1 on a Syquest
 cartridge.   The machine replied by saying that I needed a system newer
 than 7.1.  It appears that the LCIII requires a harware enabler and will
 not start from a vanilla System 7.1.  As I troubleshot further I found
 that Apple no longer ships the System software disks.  When did this
 policy start?  We ordered these machines directly from Apple as an
 Educational customer and there was no System Software included.  The only
 option short of going to a dealer was to return to school and copy a
 system folder from one of the other LCIII's.  I have dealt with Apple
 Computer since 1980 and they have always shipped the system disks with the
 computer.  I hope that this is not a thing of the past.
    It looks like a new era of buyer beware with the new Apple.

    Rick Lakin  [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 13:03:38 EDT
From: [e-mail] (2d Lt Avram Dorfman)
Subject: LC III drives speeds

Recently, I posted a question about how fast the drives built into LC IIIs
are.
My concern was based on the recollection that when I bought my SE, Apple's
built in drives had substandard performance (as slow as 80 millisec access in
the case of the SE HD20). I wanted to know if Apple still does this.

I got two responses (one from info-mac):

One person wrote me directly, and said that where he works, they bought some
new machines (IIci and Quadras, if I remember correctly), and they were
"appalled" at the poor performance of the built in drives.

The other was from the "tech" person at my school's computer store, who
called Apple, and then told me the speed of the 160 MB drive was 19 millisec.
For all I know, he spoke to the Director of Sanitation at Apple, who is
probably very skillful in the area of sanitation, but perhaps less skilled in
the understanding of Apple's choice of hardware.

It is interesting to note that when I first asked one of the sales people at
the computer store, she wasn't sure, and went to ask the tech person herself.
She came back with the following response:

    "The speed of that drive is between 20 and 40 milliseconds".

I silently remarked to myself that that answer was similer to having a car
dealer tell me that "This car gets between 10 and 60 miles to the galoon",
and then asked for a more specific answer.

If anyone else out there has any experience that supports or contradicts
anything stated here, I am very interested to have you share it!

-Avram Dorfman ([e-mail])

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 09:26:46 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Ron Rushing)
Subject: Leased LIne AppleTalk connections ??

Greetings From Nacogdoches--

 I'm investigating a project that will provide leased line connections to
area ISD campuses.  A 9.6k or 56k line is sufficient.

What equipment will be requied to provide these connections ?  Would
someone please send me some info--a list of contact/vendors would be
helpful.  Your comments on this topic would also be appreciated.

THANKS !

Ron Rushing--Supervisor--Education Media Center--SFA University
[e-mail]



           ---   Ron Rushing ---
Supervisor                       Education Media Center
     Stephen F. Austin State University
       Box 6172       Nacogdoches, TX  75962
VOICE  409) 568-1424      FAX  [phone]
      [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 12:33:11 GMT
From: HENRIQUE MANUEL NEVES GOMES
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Liken emulator!

Is anyone using the liken emulator in a sun? I got the demo, but my sun
doesn't
have a diskdrive so I can't boot it! I was wondering if anyone could send his
SysDisk to me so that I could try it out and try to convice my organization
to buy it!!

Thanks for any help u can give me!

Henrique Gomes
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 13:44 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Greg Trimper)
Subject: Looking for David Oster/Mosaic Codes (author of Cal DA)

I am trying to find David Oster/Mosaic Codes.  He is the author of the
venerable (but still functional) Cal DA - a calendar program that is
almost exactly what I think a calendar da should be.  I have tried
mailing to his account on Applelink with no success.

If he is out there, or if anyone can confirm his existence, please email me.

Thanks,
Greg Trimper   [e-mail]  [e-mail] [e-mail]
FAB1 - Applelink

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 20:34:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac Attack (fwd)

Folks,

    Could you please look the attached forwarded message over and see
if you have any clues as to what the problem is?  I have some ideas, but
I'd like the collective earth-site brains to make some suggestions,
especially if this has happened to anyone else.

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>


 --------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 18:57:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Picozzi <[e-mail]>
To: Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>
Cc: Raylene Renfrow ESC VI Hunts <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac Attack


Greetings,

Boy, do I have some questions.

Our junior high school has a networked lab setup.  We have 24
LC II computers as nodes, and a Si computer as the file
server.  Were are using Appletalk for our network.

With the computers, we are using the program "At Ease" version
1.0 to limit access to only certain programs.  Screen saver
program is Shareware "Eclipse."  We seemed to have problems
with "After Dark," so I trashed it.

Now that you know our setup, here is the problem.  One of the
advantages of "At Ease" is that it can be made to require a 3.5
inch disk to save.  This will save hard disk space, and allow a
student to take his/her work with them.  This begins our
problem.

The Macintosh LC II's have "destroyed" no less than 20 floppy
disks.  When I say destroyed, I mean destroyed.  Norton
Utilities cannot recover them, re-initialization fails, even
trying to format them on IBM fails.  They are gone.

Our computers are numbered, and so are the disks used.  There
seems to be no pattern.  A computer will format one disk
successfully, and then fail the next.  In addition, a disk that
is successfully formatted, and changed to another computer,
will fail.  (This happened to me as I was saving student work.
Net loss of 2 papers!)

Our Apple computer rep has been out 3 times.  The last time,
they brought all of their diagnostic tools with them.  The
tools said that nothing was wrong.  Fortunately (?!?) the
computers then proceeded to fail disks right in front of them.

As a last gasp effort, the rep suggested we check the grounding
in the lab.  This is proceeding, but it all seems normal.  I
took a MAC LC II home this weekend to use it with "different
electricity."  The rep's idea, not mine.  Everything worked OK,
but the failed disks were still failed.

In conclusion, we also have Symantic Anti-virus software.  I've
run it on the file server, and on the node I took home.  No
problems.

If you have any insight, I would be extremely grateful.

Thanks,

 Mark Picozzi <[e-mail]>

cc:  Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>


------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 15:00:19 EDT
From: Adam Schenker (GE) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac Hardware Guide Proposal (long!)

Well, so far I have gotten alot of responses telling me I should go ahead
and make a Mac Hardware Guide. Well, school will be over in about 2 weeks
and I have nothing better to do. :) Here is a tenative format for the
guide. Go ahead and send me e-mail telling me what you think (I just
KNOW I'm leaving some useful stuff out). DON'T SEND ME *ANY* INFO YET!
Let me get the format down, and I will send out the final version for
people to fill out and send back.

* Tenative Format:

Version Information:

Version x.y.z, where

x is incremented when new 'mainstream' Macs come out
y is incremented when new Performas, Work Group Servers or peripherals
    come out or there is a price reduction on several products
z is incremented for new information (benchmarks, fixing errors, etc.)


* Hardware Guide Overall structure:

Mac CPUs (from Mac 128k to Q950)
Mac Notebooks (PowerBooks and Duos, inlcuding docking stations)
Performas
Work Group Servers
Outbound Portables
Apple Monitors
Apple Printers
Other Apple Peripherals (keyboards, mice, modems, microphones, etc.)
(Apple Upgrades)
(Compatability and Feature charts)
Glossary of Terms

* Tenative format for computer entries:

Example 'Mac CPU' entry:

Product name: Macintosh LC
Apple Product ID:
Date of Introduction:                   Date of discontinuation:
List price:
Requires System Software: 6.0.7 or above

Product Info-
    Processor(s)-
        MC68020, speed 16 Mhz

    ROM-
        512k, supporting 32-bit addressing, 32-bit QuickDraw.

    RAM-
        Soldered to logic board: 2MB
        Speed: 100ns
        SIMM slots/bank: 2
        # of banks: 1
        Supported SIMM sizes: 1, 2, 4 MB
        Maximum RAM: 10MB

    VRAM-
        Soldered to logic board: 0k or 256k
        Maximum VRAM: 512k
        Speed:
        Supported SIMM sized: 256k or 512k
        Slots: 1

    Ports-
        1 Apple Desktop Bus
        1 Sound input
        1 Sound output
        1 SCSI
        2 RS-422 serial
        1 video out
        1 power
        1 security slot

    Video Options-
        with 256k VRAM-
            8-bit at 512x384, 4-bit at 640x480
        with 512k VRAM-
        16-bit at 512x384, 8-bit at 640x480

        Monitors supported:
        Apple 12" Monochrome
        Apple 12" RGB
        Apple 13" Color
        Some VGA and SVGA monitors (requires adaper)

    Disk Drive options-
        1 or 2 SuperDrives (2nd SuperDrive prevents adding internal
        HD)
        40 or 80MB (supports 1/3 height 3.5" drives)

    Expansion Options:

        1 LC Processor Direct Slot (96 pins)

    Power Supply:


Includes*:

    Apple Mouse
    Microphone
    Keyboard (in some cases)
    512k VRAM SIMM  (in some cases)

Upgrade paths:
    Upgradable from: NONE
    Upgradable to: Macintosh LC II, Macintosh LC III

Benchmarks:

Special Considerations:

Has only 16-bit data bus, so runs about 30-40% slower than a Mac II.
No virtual memory or FPU support (except by using 3rd party PDS card).
Can support 2 internal floppy drives. No soft power.

ROM:
This should not only reflect the size of the ROM, but any special
 properties that have been built in (such as 32-bit QuickDraw).

Video:
If the Mac includes video out support, a list of supported monitors
 should be included, as well as colors/greys at each resolution.

Expansion Options:
If there is a demand for pinouts on these slots, we MIGHT add them,
  however your average user has no use for this info. We should also
  include compatability with other Mac slots (e.g. IIsi and SE/30)
  and amount of power for each card.

Upgrade Paths:
We MAY list upgrades under a special category (just as peripherals
  are a special category). In either case, we need the Apple product ID.

Ports:
We MAY include the pinouts. If so, these might be put in their own
  sections (no need to reproduce the ADB or RS-422 pinouts for all the
  Macs). Also, we should note which ports are identical (for example,
  the LC and LC IIs video ports are the same, but different from the LC
  III).

*For peripherals, software and cables included should also be listed
 (e.g. The StyleWriter comes with 3 disks, a cartridge, a cable, and a
  power supply.) Also, the current version of the driver/chooser software
  (if any), should be included. Product IDs for items like toner and ink
  cartridges should be included (compatability between these items should
  also be mentioned). Also, a description of the software that comes with
  the peripheral should be noted, such as which fonts come with which
  printer, etc.

Printer descriptions should include be pretty much the same as the CPU
ones, but need to include information like:

Marking Technology
Marking engine
Speed in PPM
Resolution(s)
Features/Options
Paper capacities

Similarly, monitors will need things like:

Display technology
Resolution(s) supported
Refresh/scan rates
Dot/Stripe pitch
Diagonal area
DPI at each resolution


So, let me know what you think.

Adam Schenker                  Department of Computer Science & Engineering
[e-mail]     University of South Florida
                   College of Engineering

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 02:58:13 -0300
From: [e-mail] (Caio Barra Costa)
Subject: Mac Vitual Reality Software

Hi
I've just recieved my GoldBrick and would like to know if someone out there
could share some wisdom or some code with me?
I'm a novice ThinkC programer and quite good Hypercard developer, I would like
to know if there's something like World Toolkit or REND 386 available for the
Mac, is there any stuff that makes use of the GB? (I've only heard of MAX)
Do you happen to have any nice software you could share?
Thanks in advance
Caio Costa
USP-Brasil

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 10:01:36 +0000
From: Mike Brudenell <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacX 1.1.7 and System 7.1 (A)

Hi!  Sorry.... I thought I had summarised the answers I had received to the
Digest but, judging by other people's identical questions that are appearing,
perhaps I was dreaming....

The responses I got from the net indicate that MacX 1.1.7 "sort of" works with
System 7.1.  It is NOT fully compatible.  The example I and others havce hit
is
when creating or editing a Remote Command.... clicking the "Hosts" button
should
bring up the TCP tool but instead simply puts the window away.

Indications are that an upgrade to MacX 1.2 is required to interwork (more?)
properly with System 7.1.

Our problem is that we get our MacX as part of the DEC Pathworks environment
on
CD-ROM, which only comes out every 2 months.  Sigh.

                        Mike B-)

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Date: 17 Apr 1993 08:05:01 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Chris Smith (with the beard))
Subject: Mail order to foreign lands - a personal experience

[e-mail] writes:

>There seems to be a bit of a discussion of ordering from mail-order
>companies and having them refuse to deliver due to export regulations.

[ text deleted ]

>A sidebar: I understand that in Australia, goernment regulations make
>it illegal to order or bring in software purachased in another
>country, even if the company will ship.

Not so, thank God. I think all of my software has been purchased through
mail order from the US, since I found I could get Theorist for about
$400 all up m/o, compared to about $750 here. It arrived faster too.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 10:51:41 EST
From: Rhett Glover <[e-mail]>
Subject: Motorola UDS V.32  TO MAC INFO NEEDED

hello net land,

I picked up a Motorola UDS V.32 modem, Model # LCD RM 16M SA, at a computer
auction this weekend. Only problem is...NO Documentation !.

Can anyone help me get this thing hooked up to my Quadra 700 ?

Any pointers to Documentation would be appreciated.

Thanks


Rhett Glover
USAF Air Warfare Center
Eglin AFB Fl 32542

904 882-9341
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 17:50:52 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Peter Smith, Analysis)
Subject: Mousemats

OK folks, here is a *seriously* high-tec question to sort out the real
hardware buffs: what do you use for mousemats?

I've just spilt ink over my freebie (and fraying) piece of
foam-covered-with-cloth that I got with my IIsi. Much as though I love and
cherish my mouse, I d*mn*d if I'm going to shell out 16 pounds (plus tax
and postage) just so he can sit on a nice Startrek image, or even 12 pounds
for a marble effect "Executive Pad" (courtesy of MacWarehouse).

So let's hear those "I went down to the hardware store and for 25 cents got
something MUCH better" recommendations ...

Best regards

Peter S.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 20:59 CST
From: "Mark Dohm, UW-P Information Technology" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Multimedia Training lab (Q)

Ok folks, this is it.

I have $8000 per machine to spend on Mac Quadra 800 systems capable of multi-
media training. The systems would be used as training stations for various
applications ranging from word processing to multimedia authoring, laserdisk
interactives, etc.

The requirements:

- Quadra 800 w/ 24/500 w/cd-300                         $ 4238  (Higher Ed)
- 15" - 17" Color Diplay - current choice is NEC 5FG    $ 1231

  the following are to be determined with your help:

- a. a 24 bit display card & accelerator (NEC MacFG 24x)  1154.00
    AND
     a video capture card - capable of full screen, 30fps - no frills
  or
  b. a capture board 30 fps/full screen with 24 bit support on a 17" monitor.
     (accelerated would be nice)  (DigitalFilm would be nice - too expensive)

- HyperCard ($75) and QT Starter kit ($75)

 --------
Software (not included in the $8000 per machine.
  I'm taking suggestions, but have some good ideas in mind. I currently use
Premiere and love it. We need programs for other related uses, such as
Persuasion, etc. I'll post another question later on this one.

 --------Thanks a bunch !  8^)
!!  MarkMAD  (Mark Dohm)
!!  U/Wisconsin-Platteville
!!  [e-mail]  Applelink: STPLATT  AOL: MarkMAD

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Date: 18 Apr 1993 18:22:49 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: My Pb100 RAM disk will not stay

Hi, I have a problem with my Powerbook 100 blown to 8/40, with added PiSoft
Fax-Modem. When it is moved for some time (e.g. brought on a train, where I
want to use it), the Ram-disk disappears, and with it: the ram cache, the time
on the clock (it shows a random time), and the cross on the square indicating
'does not go to sleep when plugged in'. Note: I carry it always in the shut
down mode; the disappearing act does not occur if I only take it for a walk
in my office; the (authorized) dealer has tried changing 'everything', but
then the fax-modem didn't work. Has anyone had the same problem? Do you have
any suggestion for my (authorized) dealer? (I am not technically minded at
all).
    Note that the persistence of the RAM disk was the main reason (besides
the low weight) for which I got the Pb100.
    Please answer me directly at [e-mail] ; I will send
back to info-mac the working answers.    Thanks    Claudia Metelli

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 14:19:21 edt
From: "Maxwell Smart (Soell, Oliver)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Norton Utilities 2.0 (Q)

My hard drive has recently decided to crap all over me, and as a result, the
"Master Directory" is bad. Any files that I need can be unerased, but there
seems to be a bug in Volume recover. The box which supposedly lists all of the
files to be unerased only contains 300 or so, which doesn't help me and my
4000+ files. I believe that it's a bug because if I use the pagedown key, it
sometimes displays the last screen of the 400 files, but the size of the file
selected does not correspond to size noted in another place in the dialog. I
have a Mac II with 8 megs, and I'm currently running off of a 120 meg
external,
and the faulty hard drive is an internal 200 meg Rodime.

Thanks!

Oliver Soell
Dickinson College
[e-mail] (@Dickinsn.bitnet)

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 13:58:06 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Eric H Seale)
Subject: Outbound vs. Powerbook???

[e-mail] writes:
>I am confronted with a major dilemma.
>I eat, sleep, breathe, and shower with my Macintosh.
>-> THIS is NOT the dilemma. :)

Sounds to me like it SHOULD be... ;-)


>...I am one of the few people who I feel really NEEDS to purchase
>a portable of some sort/form...
>I have recently seen adds for Outbound portables (2030E and 2030S) both for
>substantially less than almost any PB, new or used.

There's a reason that used Outbound's are so cheap -- the company making
them is outta business!  So, you have to ask yourself -- am I interested
in buying a machine with no chance of future upgrades and little or no
technical support in the event of a hardware failure?

Oh, and (according to magazine review) Outbound apparently never
bothered to get their laptops FCC certified.  So if you buy one and use
it at home, you'll jam your neighbors' TV & radio reception; if you use
it on a plane, you'll jam the aircraft's navigational equipment.

Eric Seale
#include <disclaimer.std>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 12:10:19 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Brian Gordon)
Subject: Problems after Conflict Catcher -- the final chapter?

The system was still deteriorating rapidly -- most print efforts now caused a
crash, etc.  While looking at other parts of the System Folder that might be
profitably replaced, I discovered that some "disabled" parts were active ...

One of the init controllers I used to use moved things back and forth between
"Extensions" and "Extensions (disabled)" folders and the like to control who
was up and who was not.  Unexpectedly, the Connetrix 32-bit enabler was up
again.  I had had some problems with it previously, and it had no immediate
usefulness for my system (Mac II with PMMU and 8MB of memory), so I had
stopped
using it while trying to figure out what made it unhappy.  I don't know if
Conflict Catcher had moved it, or whether I was just out of synch with where I
thought it was, but removing it made _all_ the symptoms go away.

KiwiEnvelope! is happy, BinHqx DA is happy, Word and TeachText can print, no
more mysterious freezes, etc.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 09:15:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Les Ferch <[e-mail]>
Subject: Protect Bit on Mac Files and Netware 2.2

I posted the following to comp.sys.novell, but got no response, so I'll
try here...

I am using a '286 server running Netware 2.2 for a lab of Mac Plus
computers. It generally works alright, but I keep running into a bug that
drives me crazy.

Many times when I copy files from a Mac disk to the file server, the files
end up having their "Protect Bit" enabled. This has the affect of not
letting anyone copy the files from the server using the Finder. This is
damn annoying when they are files we *want* people to be able to copy.

Today it happened again and I investigated a bit. I found that FileEdit
>From MacTools 1.2 showed the problem files to have the "Protect" bit on,
but FileEdit can not change the status of this bit when the file is on a
server. The Finder could not copy these files, but FileEdit could. When
copied to a local hard disk on a Mac Plus running System 6.0.8, the files
still had the protect bit on. So I used FileEdit to turn off the bit,
duplicated the files on the local disk, changed their names, threw out the
originals from the local disk and the server, and copied the apparently
good ones back to the server. However, once copied back to the server
these files regained their Protected status. ARRRRRRRRGH!

I even tried running flag.exe (version from Netware 386 3.11) on a PC
connected to the same server and doing a "flag filename all", followed by
a "flag filename normal". It didn't help. Also, the "Copy Inhibit" flag
option that is available for Netware 386 does not even show up as an
option under Netware 2.2.

This problem seems to stick around like the B.O. in Jerry Seinfeld's BMW.
:-) Almost as annoying and at least as hard to get rid of.

Does anyone have a solution for this problem? (that is, the Protect bit
problem, not the B.O.).

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 23:55:11 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Q800 with 16 MB SIMMs

If anyone out there is using a Quadra 800 and has put 8 or 16 MB SIMMs
in it, can you please drop me a line? I'm investigating something.

Thanks!

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 13:56:06 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Tony Huang)
Subject: QT Movie editor

>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 17:43 BST
>From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
>Subject: QuickTime shareware wishlist
>
>As a sort of follow-up to my System 7 wishlist (for which I had several
>e-mail responses; thanks) I thought I'd appeal to any interested shareware
>programmers out there to come up with a viable application for editing
>QuickTime movies.
>
>I can't think of a more obvious gap in the shareware arena than the lack of
>utilities for dealing with movie files.  Sure, there are a few cute movie
>players around, but what we really need is something which allows you to
>reprocess movies in the same way as we've become accustomed to altering
>PICTs, JPEGs and GIFs.  I'm not asking for the power of Adobe Premiere (nor
>the price range!) but hopefully as hard disks and RAM and CPU speed begin
>to swell, there'll be more and more uploads of QuickTime movies which we
>users will want to alter to suit our own purposes.  For example, it's often
>desirable to reduce the file size of a movie by recompressing, changing the
>sound and frame settings and so on.
>
>[the rest deleted]

DiVA VideoShop version 1.0 (version 2.0 will be out shortly) is available
free on specially labeled SyQuest cartridges. The offer is good until the
end of April, I believe (I got mine a few weeks ago). It's a very good
movie editor, expecially for editing the video portion of the movie. It's
easier to use than Adobe Premiere and has some unique and powerful features
even Premiere lacks. However, this version doesn't seem to be compatible
with QuickTime 1.5 in recording mode (it crashes my system every time). QT
1.0 is supplied and there's no problem in playback mode with either version
of QuickTime (I don't know if it will work with the upcoming QuickTime
1.6). There's also about 50MB of sample movies and sounds from Image Bank
(on the 88MB SyQuest cartridge - fewer samples on the 44MB cartridge).

Tony Huang
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 12:01:09 EDT
From: "Mel Martinez"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra Speed

I am sorry to post this for the list, but my mail bounced from Denis and I had
already deleted the original so it was too late to try and fix the address
manually.


In message <[e-mail]> Denis Gauthier writes:
>
> Hi from Quebec
>
> I read your article  about the Newer technology Variable speed
> Overdrive.   I will like to know how was it.  It is realible ?
> Is your mac is still alive ?
> Does it cause any trouble ?
> The 68040 was not become too hot ?
> Where i can order this product ?
> What performance they produce ?
>
> Thanks for your respond
> (excuse my english)
>

Denis,

It seems very reliable.

My mac is still alive (after about 6 months w/the VSO).

It has not caused any trouble - at least none that I didn't expect.  It will
result in an occassional machine 'hang' if you are runnning too fast.  The
solution is to simply turn the speed down a notch.  I have found that I can
run  consistantly without problems at 34.4 MHz.  Even at slightly higher
speeds I don't have any problems except with a couple of obscure programs that
seem just a little too timing sensitive (both are i/o programs).  Even with
them, the hangs are very rare unless I am up around 35 MHz.  It does take a
bit of trila and error before you find that 'maximum safe level' that your
quadra can run at.  Every body's quadra will, of course, be different.

The 68040 definitely doew not become too hot.  The special heat sink that
they provide actually serves to keep it cooler than before!   The actual
limits
on how fast you will be able to run will have more to do with the quality and
responsiveness of all the support chips on the motherboard rather than the
'040
itself.

You can order the VSO from Hardware-that-Fits (check MacWorld or MacUser for
phone number, they advertise in every issue).

Installation is not trivial, but if you are competent enough to install a vcr,
you can probably manage it.  Otherwise, you can pay to have an authorized
technician to do it.

The performance boost is amazing and it is totally compatible, even with
A/UX!!!! (Which is fortunate, because otherwise A/UX is a real cpu load...)

Basically, it boosts ALL operations except disk i/o in direct proportion to
the
increase in clock rate.  I.E., if you run it at 33 MHz, all operations will
run
32 % faster.  By that I mean ALL operations.  Video included.  At 34.4MHz, it
out  guns a Quadra800 on all marks except SANE Whetstones and video.  The Q800
has rom-code that is better optimized for the '040 so that is why it is so
fast
on those two marks.  Even so, the race is real close on those two.  Overall,
the
Q700 at 34.4MHz wins by a long nose.

Cheahs...

Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 10:31:08 PDT
From: Kevin Purcell (Rho) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Resource Detective Needed (A)

[e-mail] points out that MPW has DeRez to produce a
textural list of resources in a reource fork (that may be recompiled by Rez).

One of the utilities provided with THINK C and THINK Pascal are SARez
and SADeRez ("say"-de-rez). SA is standalone -- they don't need the MPW
shell to run.

Personally I keep MPW around for Projector (source control management),
scripting and porting. And with SourceServer (and ToolServer) in the
works we may not even need to do that too much longer.

Hoping the next THINK products have menu items to send AppleEvents to
THINK Reference and SourceServer!

Kevin Purcell
Co-chair Mac dBug Developer's SIG
[e-mail]

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Date: Saturday, 17 Apr 1993 17:38 CDT
From: Joel Cunningham <[e-mail]>
Subject: RES  Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines

Anders Lund writes:

>>Michael Everson, in a feat of tremendous grammatical gymnastics, writes:

>>For my money, The Apple LC/LCIII upgrade seems to be the best buy.  For
>>$599, my local Apple dealer will take my hard drive out of my LC and put
>>it into a brand-new LCIII.  I get virtually a whole new machine.

>This is different from my understanding... If I were to do this to my LC
>all I would upgrade is the  board, I would still have the same floppy drive/
>video capabilities (ie no support of the 16" monitor)....  ANy insight into
>this would be appreciated.

Michael has it right. I did the LC/LCIII upgrade three weeks ago and
except for the floppy and hard drives, *everything* is new. New board,
new power supply, new fan, new case (with "Macintosh LC III" on it).
I also have the capability to display 32,000 colors on my 13" monitor
(using the full screen).
IMHO, this is one of the best deals Apple has ever offered. Go for it.


                  -- Joel Cunningham

                  "Push the button, Frank."

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 12:24:19 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: sil-ipa.hqx [A]

   I downloaded SIL-IPA fonts some time ago.  As the name implies, the
file did indeed contain Postscript and Truetype versions of an
International Phonetic Alphabet font created by the Summer Institute for
Linguistics.  A readme file included in the package was dated Jan 5,
1993 and the folder SIL-IPA on my hard disk has a creation date of Jan
18, 1993.  I don't know whether that was when I downloaded it or whether
the creation date was preserved by whatever compressor was used.

Shih Tung
Chem E
Best l'il Tech School
on the Charles


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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 19:53:19 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Wayne K. Walrath)
Subject: Speaking of MacInTax.... (C)

found this in rec.humor.funny today. After the discussion that's been
going on here about Macintax, I thought those of you who had problems
might get a chuckle.

    -wayne
    ---------------------

Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny
Subject: Newsflash from the IRS
Keywords: topical, smirk, computers
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Apr 93 07:20:01 GMT
Lines: 17
Approved: [e-mail]

April 15, 1993 (Special)

The IRS reported today that thousands of Macintosh owners were filing
Form 4868 (Application for Automatic Extension of Time To File U.S.
Individual Income Tax Return).

It seems that they all used MacInTax, and Form 4868 was the only form
that printed out correctly.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 20:01:55 BST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Still/QT Image capture for PowerBook 165c

I have a research project coming up in the South Pacific which requires
me to make video stills  and short low quality QT movies at a base site
for use in interviews in remote areas using a PB 165c. I would like to
avoid taking a second computer system with me just to make these, as I
have before.

Is anyone aware of a product which can be adapted for the PB165c for
image capture from a Hi8 Camcorder. I assume this means it must
communicate via the SCSI port or in the worst case, the serial port.
Since low quality (within limits) is not a problem, something based off
some of the chip sets developed for 'Video for Windows' might be ideal,
as the data rates for these are within SCSI rates. In the worst case
a box for still capture will do. Writing driver software etc is not a
problem.

Thanks,

Michael Fischer
Centre for Social Anthropology and Computing

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 12:19:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Kaplan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Strange startup error.

I have been consistently getting a very strange startup error lately, and I
was hoping someone else may have seen it and knows what it means...When I
start
up, the Finder comes on, the things I have in my Startup Folder are loaded,
and I then get a alert box which reads "Privacy Startup Error: ids: 120,67340
(Sorry, there is no descriptive message for this error/warning)."

It happens every startup.  The system continues to function without any
problem
after that warning.  I have yet to try getting rid of my Extensions and
Control
Panels and Startup items (systematically, of course) to try and track it
down..
But if someone knows where this comes from to help my search, that would be
nice.  (And even if I do find the source of this problem myself, it would be
cool to know what the heck it meant.)

Thanks.

Scott Kaplan
Amherst College
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 08:00:29 -0700
From: [e-mail] (David Dantowitz)
Subject: Studio/32 Crashes under System 7... Help!

Hi

We're running Studio/32 under system 7.0.1 and it periodically crashes
on a IIci or a Quadra 700.  The last crash was a 28 (stack goes into heap).
The document being edited was 150K and the partition was 8Mb.  The
problem seems to occur under 24 and 32 bit settings.  The version we're
using is 1.2.

Any clues or hints on what to do next?

Thanks,
    David

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 10:04:59 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Subject: Looking for Pascal-2-C source converter (R)

Subject: Looking for Pascal-2-C source converter...

> Well - sometime ago I trashed  mine only copy of a pascal-to-C source
> converter and now I wouldn't mind having it back. So  does anyone out
> there in netland know where this beastie lives?

Look for p2c, the pascal-to-C converter, on our server
   statlab.uni-heidelberg.de
It is there as MPW tool, and as a stand-alone version.



  Guenther Sawitzki  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 13:02:41 EDT
From: [e-mail] (2d Lt Avram Dorfman)
Subject: suggestion for answering *easy* questions

Subject: suggestion for answering *easy* questions


Recently, someone wrote in explaining that one reason for questions to go
unanswered was this: Some questions seem so easy to the person who knows that
they figure lots of other people will also know the answer, and post it.

The obvious problem, then, comes when everyone who knows the answer does
this.

I know that for me, when I don't respond, it is because I want to avoid a ton
of postings that say the same thing. Here is the solution that I use:

I send my responses directly to the email address of the person who posted the
question. This ensures BOTH that the person gets an answer, AND that I don't
contribute to a flood of redundant responses.

If the user gets responses that aren't posted, then he (or she) can compile
them into one useful posting, instead of 10 redundant postings.

-Avram Dorfman ([e-mail])

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 01:29:55 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Li-Hsiang Tu)
Subject: Sun OS's default font (Q)

I was looking for the default font of Sun's OpenWin so I can use it on Mac.
 Someone told me that it is Lucida (or Lucida San), but neither is
monospaced (right term?) font like Monaco.  Can someone help me?  The
output looks very good with that font both on screen and on paper produced
by Sun.

Thanks.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 23:45:52 -0400
From: Scott E Maxwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: SuperLaserSpool

1) I don't know a FAX # or internet address, but they do have a
1-800 sales number.  The # is 1-800-873-4384.  This will get you
the 5th Generation Sales line.  They can probably give you the
FAX number.  I will see if I can track down a Internet address
or at list a CompuServe address.

2) Lastest version that I know about is 3.0x, which is running on
my computer as I type.  It is compatible with system software versions
6.0.5, 6.0.7 and 7.0 (according to manual).  I also know by personal
experience that it works with 7.0.1 (tuned).  I would think that it
should work with 6.0.8 also.

Hope this helps.

Scott Maxwell
The University of Michigan
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 01:30:31 EDT
From: Dave Norris <[e-mail]>
Subject: System 7.0.1

I need some advice. Having a Mac Classic since April of 1991 (bss-before
system
7) I have been waiting to see what will become of our belovid System7. As I
und
erstand it the System 7.0 had some bugs and 7.0.1 fixed that. I'm not sure
what
 the difference between 7.0.1 and the Tune-Up version. Anyway what I want to
 kn
ow is, can I just replace my old system file and other files that belong to
it,
 and put 7.0.1 system and finder and other goodies without refomatting my hard
drive. I've gotten the disk tools disk which is system 7.0.1 that runs from a
f
loppy. When I start up with that it says it rebuilding the desktop of my hard
d
rive. I am really eager to jump on with system 7 (mainly for publish and
subscr
ibe because of my pokey 68000) I realize I'll need more RAM so I'm upgrading
to
4 Megs. Seems that 7.1 isn't worth the money, since 7.0.1 is free.  Thank You
       8}) <- a smilie with a mustache   David Norris [e-mail]
                              r3dan1@akronvm

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 18:48:22 edt
From: [e-mail]
Subject: System 7.1 Sylewriter II.

I have a problem with the Stylewriter II and System 7.1. I was running
system 7.0.1 on a Mac Plus with tuneup the stylewriter II would work
fine with or without background printing. I upgraded to System 7.1
with the stylewriter II and when printmonitor comes up and the printer
starts printing my mouse freezes. It moves side to side but not
vertically. I can enable easy access to get by but it's still a pain.
The mouse unfreezes as soon as the printer stops. Has anyone heard of
this problem. By the way I've been using system 7.0.1 since it came
out without any problems, my startup disk is an 80 meg Ehman and my
Plus has 4 meg of memory.

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 09:37:41
From: "G.BERRY" <[e-mail]>
Subject: thanks

Re image files
Many thanks to everyone who replied to my question regarding
image files and what to do with them.  I have now downloaded
DiskCopy 4.2 from ftp.apple.com and this has solved all of my
problems.  I was very impressed with the number of replies in such
a short time.
                  Graham Berry

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 13:45:12 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Carol Conti-Entin)
Subject: TOPS network: how to add a PowerBook?

I just received a phone message from the director of a nonprofit
organization where I volunteer my computer skills. He just bought
a PowerBook and wants to connect it to their existing TOPS net-
work, which currently consists of 3 SEs running System 6.0.8 or
earlier. I'll be going there on Wednesday, and will RTFM then to
try to figure out what's needed and how to do it. But, given that
the manuals in question predate PowerBooks by at least a few
years (and given that I did not install the original network and
am essentially unfamiliar with TOPS), is there advice you can give
me from your experience about potential problems and their solutions?
Thanks in advance for your help!

--
Carol Conti-Entin      216-561-8720
2878 Chadbourne Road   Shaker Heights, OH  44120-2215
Free-Net: ag311        Internet: [e-mail]
     from CompuServe: >INTERNET: [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 21:42:44 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Dominique Landry)
Subject: TransferNote


The application is crashing if started with system 6. Please remove
>From the archives on info-mac. I will submit a new version next week.
Thank you.


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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 16:09 EST
From: E=MC^2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: TurboGopher: (TY)

Dear Netters,
Thank you all for the answer to expanding .cpt files.
 If anyone wishes a summary, please e-mail me.
Sincerely,

ABRODY @ CLARKU

P.S. (TY) - could be a good abbreviation for Thank You on the net, especially,
if you want to let people know that you have been answered.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 17:13:09 EST
From: Dimitrios Diamantaras <[e-mail]>
Subject: Weird OzTeX behavior (C)

Hello everybody.

I am having problems with OzTeX 1.42 and I took the route of writing
Andrew Trevorrow about them, but I did not post my problems to Info-Mac.
Then I read the following post in Info-Mac #82:

> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 01:52:43 -0400
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Weird OzTeX behavior...
>
> Hello people. I've been using OzTex for years now (literally) but a few
> weeks ago started to notice strange things.
>
> Occasionally I'll TeX a file (using LaTex or AMS-LaTeX not that I think
> that's relevant) and get a strange dvi file. Maybe all the 't's in the
> dvi file will have become -'s. Or all the paragraphs will each be one
> (very long) line off the edge of the page. The point is, it's always
> very "localized damage" one thing wrong, but the file is correct is all
> other aspects.
>
> This behavior is not reproducible---when I TeX the same file again, I
> might get a different strangeness, or a dvi file that is fine.
> The damage is in the dvi file because I'v looked at the dvi file on
> other platforms.
> I have tried tracking things to an INIT, but switching some of them off
> or on does not seem to change things---since the behavior is not
> reproducible, this doesn't seem a fruitful route.
> I have given OzTeX lotsa memory (about 1.5MB) and also ramped up all
> it's user-settable parameters (I needed to do so to run AMS-LaTeX).
>
> I have an SE/30, color screen, no VM, 20MB RAM, Apple 32 bit enabler,
> system 7.1, generally standard INITs like Now Utils, Norton FileSaver
> and such, OzTeX 1.4.3.
> I can't think of anything that correlates with this strange behavior
> starting---maybe 7.1 or maybe installing the 32 bit enabler?
>
> Anyone else seen this? Know what to make of it?
>
> Maynard Handley

I now realize it might help others for me to post my experiences; here is
the description of my problem, which is strikingly similar to what
happened to Maynard, as I wrote it down for Mr. Trevorrow; I also have
done some checking as you will see, trying to find a cure:

> ...
> First of all, I run OzTeX on a Mac IIsi with 9Megs of RAM, system 7.1,
> with 32-bit addressing on but virtual memory not, and a medium number of
> extensions and control panels: Disinfectant 3.1 init, Apollo 1.0,
> DiskLight and Mirror (from CPtools), AccessPC, and ATM v 2.0.3. Last
> February I bought the Lucida family of fonts from Y&Y and spent some
> time, with their help, making OzTeX use it. This entailed changing the
> config file, but I mention this only on the off chance it matters even
> though I believe it does not; you see the problem with OzTeX disappears
> when I restart with Extensions off.
>
> Time to describe the problem: when I run a file through OzTeX (I am
> almost always using LaTeX) and then preview, I get one or more strange
> substitutions of letters for other letters and/or numbers. For example,
> sometimes I see every letter that starts a word being displayed as a
> capital gamma (this is fairly common). Other times a capital gamma
> replaces only a certain letter. Some other times numbers are replaced by
> a lowercase c. Once any lower case t that started a word was replaced by
> the fi ligature. The files with which I have observed this behavior do
> not use any Lucida fonts, just the standard TeX fonts plus msbm and
> fraktur from the AMS font set. No other application misbehaves, so
> it does not seem likely that my Mac has a flaky chip somewhere.
>
> ...
>
> I have checked with Disinfectant 3.1 my whole hard drive and it finds no
> viruses.

So far Mr. Trevorrow has not replied (I sent the above a couple of days ago),
but of course he may be too busy.

I should add that I also observed the enormously long lines that Maynard
found, but I forgot them in the preceding because they did not crop up
very often... Also, the problem was manifested first a couple of months
ago (approximately), but recently it became very serious. Note that I
found OzTeX to work with extensions off A FEW TIMES, so it could even be
that disabling all extensions might not help but I did not test enough
to see this.

Sorry for the very long post, but anyone with ideas on what can help with
this problem will make the life of many OzTeX users much easier!

Dimitrios Diamantaras

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 09:10:49 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble)
Subject: Where to get 6.08L ? You don't need it for the PB-100 !

Steven Hodas wrote:
>I'm looking for System 6.08L for my Powerbook 100. I understand that it
>was never released in this country.

You only need 6.08L for Macs that can't use system 6.  The PB-100 CAN
use system 6, which you can download from Apple.  Install the version
for the old Mac Portable.

Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE ([e-mail]) Fax (France=33).76.48.39.06

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 13:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steven Hodas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Where to get 6.08L ? You don't need it for the PB-100 !

It was my understanding that 6.08L is the only system that supports SCSI
disk mode and power mangement features on the 100. Am I wrong?

Steven

On Sat, 17 Apr 1993 [e-mail] wrote:

> Steven Hodas wrote:
> >I'm looking for System 6.08L for my Powerbook 100. I understand that it
> >was never released in this country.
>
> You only need 6.08L for Macs that can't use system 6.  The PB-100 CAN
> use system 6, which you can download from Apple.  Install the version
> for the old Mac Portable.
>
> Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE ([e-mail]) Fax (France=33).76.48.39.06
>

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 01:57:23 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Irka)

Subject: MSWord and After Dark


In Digest #81 [e-mail] (Edward Floden) writes:

>I received my upgrade to MacWrite Pro last week, and I soon noticed a
>problem that Berkeley Systems has confirmed: when you have a document open
>in MacWrite Pro, After Dark -- 2.0x, anyway, which is what I'm using --
>will not automatically sleep. You may still place the pointer in your
>'sleep now' corner to activate After Dark, but autosleep doesn't work.

I experience the same problem with MSWord 5.0a. However, After Dark does
kick in on it's own after the assigned 5 minutes of idle time. After this
automatic 'kick-in', After Dark can be activated by placing the pointer in
the 'sleep now' corner.

Another annoying occurrence is that sometimes, if I try to activate After
Dark with the pointer before the automatic kick-in sets in, everything
freezes and I have to restart. This usually happens if Word has only
been open for a short time. Later on, after Word has been running for a
while (I haven't monitored the time period), the pointer seems to activate
After Dark, even if previously it had not been activated automatically!

I have noticed these things using the After Dark Clock and Moire files.
I haven't tried the other AD files. Obviously, there is some type of
incompatibility with After Dark and at least these two word processing
applications (MacWrite Pro and MSWord).

I am using a Classic 4x40 with an APS Quantum 105 meg external HD
System 6.0.7, Finder 6.1.7, After Dark 2.0t and SuperClock 3.9.

I had always suspected that SuperClock may be the culprit but, even with
it removed from my system, I cannot activate After Dark with the pointer
in MSWord.  I have a friend who has a IIci 5x80 running System 7.1
and lots of inits and he does not experience these problems with MSWord 5.1
and After Dark. He suggested that the problem may be with the particular
system version.

Is there anyone out there experiencing similar problems?


I. McAuley
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 11:30:11 CST
From: [e-mail] (Virginia Galvez)

I am working on a problem of scheduling classroom, and I will like to know if
you have some software, papers or articles about it. If you have something
relate it,  please let me know.

        thanks

        Lorenza Illanes

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 17:00:21 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Steve Kalkwarf)

>I am looking for a Finder hack that will enable me to disable that blasted
>'I'll be back' message that the finder gives when you unmount a partition.

Look for "Another Finder Hack", a pretty slick hack my old student
programmer and I whipped up. Or use SpeedyFinder7, which can do the same
thing (I sent the author our hack and asked nicely...)

Steve

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